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Discussion in 'Welcome & Forum Rules/Code of Conduct' started by Clint Mitchell, 8 September 2014.

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  1. Clint Mitchell

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    Welcome to the ‘Luftwaffe Research Group’ (LRG) Forum. This forum was created to fill the void that was left after the ‘Luftwaffe Experten Message Board’ (LEMB) closed. The LEMB was a very successful Luftwaffe discussion forum which was started by Peter Evans as the LEML way back in 1995. It was initially set up as an email list but was later turned into a standalone discussion forum with a membership that grew to nearly 5000 members. In 2014 after 19 years at the helm Peter Evans made the tough decision to retire and close LEMB to any new discussions. To save the vast resource of information that was contained on LEMB, Peter vowed to keep the forum viewable to existing members as an archive so that future generations could benefit from the wealth of knowledge that had accumulated over the years. At the time of it’s closing one of LEMB’s moderators Clint Mitchell decided to start up a new Luftwaffe discussion forum to carry on the work started by Peter Evans. With the help of some friends and former LEMB members the ‘LRG’ forum was born.

    So again welcome to the LRG forum and I hope you enjoy your visit.

    We have some rules to follow whilst you participate on the forum so I ask that you please try and follow them. They are put in place for the benefit of all members. By becoming a member you agree to abide by the following rules.

    Usernames: To become a member we prefer that you use your full real name. At the very least we ask that your username be either your full first name and the initial of your surname, for example ‘Joe B’ or the initial of your first name and your full surname, for example ‘J Bloggs’. Any membership applications that contain usernames that look suspicious and do not adhere to the above rule will simply be rejected without warning. This rule is in place to make it easier to recognise spammers and spam bots. If your initial membership application was rejected please try again with a your real name. Any form of SS or Nazi linked names are strictly forbidden and will also be rejected without warning. There is nothing stopping you from putting your alias/nickname in your signature......

    Main posting rules:
    • No gaps in abbreviations (explained further here)
    • No hot linked images (explained further here)
    • An appropriate source must accompany all images uploaded to the forum. (explained further here)
    • If any material from LRG is posted elsewhere, full credit and a link back to the source topic on LRG has to be included. Repeated violation of this rule will lead to the termination of your LRG account.
    Other rules and posting etiquette:
    • Sensitive subjects or sexually explicit words are not allowed.
    • Constructive criticism of posts and good natured debating is most welcome. Any trolling will not be tolerated.
    • We have the right to reproduce any part of LRG posts/threads/messages elsewhere.
    • No political comments whatsoever will be allowed.
    • Any neo-Nazi/SS discussion or the sale/pointers to associated paraphernalia are strictly forbidden.
    • If you cannot solve an argument on the board, please take your discussions elsewhere, like the boards Private Message (PM) ‘Conversation’ facility or good old fashioned email. All members can be contacted via the PM service provided as part of the boards services. Please use it if it becomes necessary.
    • Luftwaffe related advertisements are allowed on the board, but the admin reserve the right to remove them without warning.
    • Direct links to sites that illegally share published books are not allowed
    • Links in signatures to anything other than Luftwaffe related subjects are not allowed.
    • Please do not make multiple posts of the same post or question several times in different areas of the board. One post or question in the appropriate forum is all that is necessary. If you are in any doubt as to the correct forum to post, please contact the Admin via the PM facility.
    • There are no time limits with regards answering old threads. If a thread is open, then you are free to post. However, the blatant practice of simply bumping your old or unanswered posts is not allowed and any posts attempting this will be deleted.
    • Please do not just post a link to your question elsewhere or on another message board. Please post the question in full on the LRG. We have no problem with you cutting and pasting the question from elsewhere.
    • The excessive use of quoting text from previous posts in a thread, especially those in a question/answer right before your own post, is not allowed. Quoting sections of text from previous answers earlier in a thread is allowed. We reserve the right to edit or remove sections of quoted text that break this rule.
    • Please use the full width of the answer box when replying. We reserve the right to tidy up posts which do not use the complete width.
    • Please do not type in 'CAPITALS'. This is classed as shouting and is not acceptable here. You can make your point without the need to shout.
    • Please post all messages in English only. If you post any other languages, please ensure that you post suitable translation. Also, please understand that English may not be the mother tongue of people who post. Please bear this in mind when replying. Any posts left in languages other than English will be deleted.
    • Please note the rules on copyright. A separate thread on this topic can be found here.
    • Abuse of the Private Message (PM) facility is not allowed. The addition of images sent via PM is also not allowed. If you wish to share images outside of the board, you can do so via email.
    • Signatures should be kept short and must not contain images. A contributor may put a link to his/her personal website in their signature however posting advertising of commercial sites may result in them being removed.
    • Only use the standard typeface/font when inputting text onto the forum. Italicised text and bold text is permitted but please refrain from using any other colours than black. All instances where this rule has not been followed will be edited to conform.
    • A direct link must be provided to any eBay auctions if any image/images from the auction are uploaded or posted on the LRG.
    • Any posts that you make on luftwaffe-research-group.org become the property of luftwaffe-research-group.org. If you request your account to be removed or you are banned you cannot request for the posts you have made on the forum to be removed.
    • By signing up to be a member of luftwaffe-research-group.org you agree to the above terms and conditions.
    • Contributing information, interesting LW eBay auctions or photos to other sites that is applicable to threads and or might be appreciated by the members on this site which is thus unduly withheld from LRG members constitutes a breach of trust with regards to membership. If we see this happening on a regular basis then your membership will be revoked without warning.
    • Anyone passing information obtained on or via the LRG to barred members cancels their membership entirely and immediately.
    We reserve the right to edit or tidy posts and move any uploaded images to retain structure and legibility. This is especially the case with incorrect use of abbreviations and excessive use of quotes from previous posts in a thread or the excessive use of paragraphs are used. There is no need to repeat all text from a post before yours but please note that we never delete images or text unless they break the copyright rules. If I or any of the moderators edit any posts that break the rules, a line of text will appear below the post with the time and date the edit took place. No material is deleted, unless it is excessive quotes from a previous post in the same thread.

    The Administrator and the moderation staff reserves the right to remove any inappropriate posts or ban anybody who does not adhere to the above.

    It is important that you read and digest all of the Information above. By joining and becoming a member of the LRG it means that you have agreed to abide by the rules. Ignorance is no excuse. If you have any questions please PM Admin.
     
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    Explanation why there must be no gaps in the abbreviations posted on the forum:

    Below are the reasons why members cannot use gaps in the abbreviated terms used on the LRG forum. We appreciate that most of you have many years experience in writing the various Luftwaffe related abbreviations with gaps in them. We understand this and will not be forcing you to change your ways but all I we ask is that you take a minute to read the reasons below why gaps cannot be used on the forum. You will not be reprimanded for using gaps in abbreviations but please note that the Admin or Moderation staff will edit your posts to conform to the rules for the reasons set out below.

    Now because myself or the moderation staff look after this forum in our spare time we would rather not spend it editing all of your topics so that they conform to the abbreviation rules. I’m asking a favour from each and every one of you. Can you please bear this in mind when writing anything on the LRG forum and try your best to adhere to the abbreviation rules. We are undertaking the decision to have no gaps for the benefit of the forum as a whole. So please try not to post gaps in abbreviations because it really does mess things up with the database software and the following should explain why…….

    An internet forum like LRG is basically a database of information which is accessed via a graphical user interface. Most forums including LRG use the MySQL database management system as the core database language to operate. Every time you create a new topic or post a reply to an existing topic on the LRG forum it is stored as data in the database. If in the future you wish to find that data again you have to search the database to retrieve it. MySQL has it’s own default search function which allows you to find data stored in the database. MySQL limits the minimum word length of a full-text search to 4 characters by default. This means that MySQL’s search function is limited to only search for words or strings of characters that are four or more characters in length. Thus when you perform a search on the forum, any words stored in the database that contain only 1, 2, or 3 characters are ignored. This causes a major problem on a forum dedicated to research into the Luftwaffe and most other technical forums where the use of short abbreviated terms is commonplace. As an example, if you were to try and search the LRG for any topics that contain the abbreviation ‘JG1’ which as most of you know is the abbreviated term used for ‘Jagdgeschwader 1’. The search function would not return any results even though there are many instances of the abbreviation ‘JG1’ appearing on many topics throughout the forum.

    The LRG forum team has purchased and implemented a specialist, advanced search function that extends the standard search’s functionality and allows it to be able to find words that are 3 characters in length. It is more intelligent than the standard MySQL search function. This extra feature is essential on a Luftwaffe forum and goes some way to solving the problems with abbreviations but sadly it still means that gaps in between the abbreviations are unable to be used.

    Most of us realise that in surviving period Luftwaffe documents and the many books published on the subject since the end of WW2 that it is the norm to write the aircraft and unit abbreviations with a gap. For example: JG 1, KG 55, Bf 109 E-1, etc. When written like this in printed form it is fine because the human eye can detect the gap and the brain works out that the abbreviation is a single term. For example we know that when we read ‘2. (F) / Aufkl Gr 100’ that it means the reconnaissance unit ‘2 Aufklärungsgruppe 100’. A forum search is different in this situation. When you type ‘2.<gap>(F)<gap>/<gap>Aufkl<gap>Gr<gap>100’ the forum search sees only one word: 'Aufkl'. It treats the gap in-between the strings of characters as a break between several separate search terms. Most of which are less than 3 characters in length so will be ignored. So the outcome will be that you will get many unwanted search results that are irrelevant to your search for any topics that contain info on the reconnaissance unit ‘2 Aufklärungsgruppe 100’. You will get all of the topics that contain any instance of the term 'Aufkl' and nothing else. This doesn’t make for a very efficient search function which on a research archive/forum where it is imperative that we are able to find specific topics quickly and easily at any time in the future.

    A database of information that is not able to be adequately searched is impractical and renders it useless as a means to undertake any kind of research where older topics and information needs to be discovered and easily located.

    Also we will be implementing a system where all abbreviations will need to be input into the forum exactly the same each time that a specific abbreviation is used. For example the standard abbreviated term that is permissible on the LRG forum for ‘2 Aufklärungsgruppe 100’ is ‘2.(F)/AufklGr100’ each time a member types the abbreviation in any way other than ‘2.(F)/AufklGr100’ it will be edited to ‘2.(F)/AufklGr100’ by either the Admin or moderation staff. Over the coming months a comprehensive list of the abbreviated terms that are to be used on LRG will be made available in the help forums. Again we will not be reprimanding you for not using these terms but please bear in mind that someone will have to edit it on your behalf.

    Although these rules might seem a little strict, adhering to them is really going to help create a database of information with a really efficient and useful search function. So that in the future if you need to find any piece of information it will be very easy to locate.
     
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    Explanation why there must be no hot-linked images posted on the forum:

    We have removed the ability to hot-link images on the LRG forum. Although the means to do so still exists, if you try and hot-link an image the forums software will automatically replace it with a plain URL link when the topic or thread is posted. Below is an explanation as to why we do not allow the hot-linking of images:

    Bandwidth theft or "hot-linking" is direct linking to a web site's files (images, video, etc.). An example would be using an <img>tag to display a JPEG image you found on someone else's web page so it will appear on your own site, eBay auction listing, weblog, forum message post, etc.

    Bandwidth refers to the amount of data transferred from a web site to a user's computer. When you view a web page, you are using that site's bandwidth to display the files. Since web hosts charge based on the amount of data transferred, bandwidth is an issue. If a site is over its monthly bandwidth, it's billed for the extra data or taken offline.

    A simple analogy for bandwidth theft: Imagine a random stranger plugging into your electrical outlets, using your electricity without your consent, and you paying for it.

    We also have no control over what content is displayed on a hot-linked image.
     
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    The reasons why an appropriate source must accompany all images uploaded to the forum:

    Essentially the LRG is a forum where research can be undertaken. Any experienced researchers will require a source for the images that are posted on LRG so they can make a note in their files as to where the image came from.

    Also if an image is posted that is scanned from a book or magazine. Adding a source will inform the members which book it was originally published in so that they can try and purchase the book themselves. There are times when the posting of images from books, magazines and websites however is not permitted. Details of which can be found in the 'Image Posting & Copyright rules' here.

    If you need to post an image and you do not know the appropriate source information you may upload it to the LRG photobucket account.

    If you have uploaded any images to your own personal Photobucket account or another online image hosting service and then posted the link to the image in the relevant post on LRG. Please keep in mind that the LRG postings are intended to be a permanent record, and you must be prepared to support the images posted indefinitely. Otherwise, if you later remove them from your image hosting service, the link goes dead and the research and reference value of your post will be lost to the forum for future readers and researchers. Instead why not use the LRG photobucket page, details of which can be found here. It's free, very easy to use, and also saves the images for future members to enjoy.
     
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    Image posting & copyright rules:

    There are strict rules set in place with regards to the reproduction of images from books. So as to allow the reproduction of images and text within this board from other sources, I would ask that you please stick to these rules.

    #1 - If you wish to include an image(s) from another on-line resource, try and seek the owners, poster or webmaster's permission to reproduce it on the LRG. However, if the website does not allow their images to be posted elsewhere (or you are unsure of their policy) please just post the URL link in the post message box so that it includes only an URL link to the original image rather than a direct hot-link. Hot-linking of images so that they are visible on the LRG are not allowed under any circumstances. If there is no restriction by the original site or you have obtained permission from the owner, poster or webmaster, copy the picture on to your own website/server or upload it using the LRG image upload facility but please give proper accreditation to the original owner, website and include a link/URL to the website in your post message box.

    #2 - If the image is taken from a book or magazine, images should not be scanned and reproduced unless permission has been granted by the author, publisher or image owner. If the book or magazine is out of print or difficult to obtain, and full credit is included in the post message box, then the image can be posted. If you are not sure, then please Private Message (PM) one of the moderating team and they will be happy to provide guidance. If you are the author or editor of a book/magazine from where images have been scanned and you wish them to be removed, please drop me a PM and I'll be happy to do so.

    #3 - If the image comes from your own collection, please credit it in your post. I would also recommend that you add copyright text or watermark your image(s) so that they are not copied and posted elsewhere.

    The next point is very important:

    #4 - Adding an image without a source or a line of text to say any of the following is not good enough:

    (a) - I downloaded the image from a website but cannot remember where.
    (b) - I downloaded the image from a website that no longer exists.
    (c) - I scanned the image from a scrapbook and can't remember from where it was taken.
    (d) - I found the image elsewhere on the LRG but haven't bothered to add a source.
    (e) - I found the image on my HD but cannot remember the source...

    If you cannot give full credit for the source of any images you wish to post (as set out above) then please do not upload the image. There is nothing stopping members sharing uncredited images via email. The only uncredited images that are allowed, but at the administrators and moderators discretion, are former eBay auction images. Please note that if the winner of an image posted here makes contact with any member of the moderation team and wishes them to be removed, then we will be happy to do so.

    #5 - If you are using a 3rd party image host (Flikr, Photobucket etc) or your own webspace to host your image, there is no restriction on the size of an image linked away from the LRG. However, the URL redirect is all that can appear in the post and the image must not be hot-linked to appear within the LRG thread. Members linking images via plain URL's from 3rd party hosting sites should try and add a source, but it is not imperative that they do. Check this link for details of the LRG Photobucket account.

    #6 - The reproduction of ANY electronic copies of books, or links to file sharing websites/message forums offering these services is NOT allowed. This includes published books/articles shared via Rapidshare, Megaupload or any other third party hosting solutions. If in doubt, please do not post any links. Any posts with links to the sharing of electronic/scans of books will be deleted without question.

    #7 - As the reproduction of images from published sources may infringe the copyright rules of the book/magazine in question, if you are in any doubt whatsoever please do not post the image and just make mention in the post message box of either:

    * the book title, author, ISBN and publisher
    * the magazine name, date & issue number, author and publisher

    #8 - A direct link must be provided in the post message box to any eBay auctions if any image/images from the auction are uploaded or posted on the LRG. If the auction has expired and the link no longer works, please ensure that you add a line of text along the lines of Source: Expired eBay auction, link no longer works. If the images appear in any published work, I am happy for them to remain, as long as they are of reduced quality. If you are the publisher/author or owner of any images posted, please let me know and I will be happy to remove them. If you are selling images or win an auction and the images are reproduced anywhere on the LRG and you wish them removed, drop me a PM and once again, I'll be happy to remove them.

    #9 - If you plan to scan and post images from a book that is new or recently published, please can you refrain from doing so. Please allow 24 months before posting any images from new publications. If the book or magazine is hard to find or out of print, please use your common sense and limit the number of photos you scan. Most publishers will allow an odd photo to be reproduced, but mass scanning and posting will invariably mean I get an email or PM asking me why I allow this to happen. You'd be surprised how many publishers/authors/photo owners are members here, so please just be sensible people. If in doubt please do not post it!!!

    All 9 of these points are here to ensure that the LRG goes a long way to trying to keep within international law. Please note that if any member, after being warned by any member of the moderation team, infringes any one of these rules, they will be suspended from using the LRG.

    The LRG moderation team and I have full rein to delete/edit any messages not following these guidelines, or messages that they consider infringe on the copyright of the rightful holder. Believe me, it's nothing personal! We just want to try and keep within the copyright laws. The Luftwaffe Research Group (LRG) cannot be held responsible for what is posted herein. If a copyright holder or webmaster wishes to have items removed in accordance with his copyright, please PM me directly and the content will be removed ASAP.
     
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    Using the LRG imgbox account:

    So as to try and make it even easier for members to post their non-copyrighted, unattributable images without breaking the rules, we have an LRG imgbox account.

    1 - To access the website, click here and then enter the following which will log you into the main uploading page:

    Username: LRGForum
    Password: LRG2017

    2 - Click the orange "Upload Images" button

    3 - This will open a file browser to locate the image file on your computer. Once selected it will bring up some options.

    4 - From the options choose
    • Content Type: Family Safe Content
    • Thumbnail: 100x100 pixel (Square)
    • Comments: Disable Comments
    • Gallery Option: Add to existing gallery and choose LRG Forum Images
    At the bottom of the page, there is an "ADD MORE" button. This will allow you to select multiple images to upload to the imgbox website during this upload session.

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    - Once you have chosen all of the images that you wish to upload, click the orange "Start Upload" button.

    6 - Once complete, you will be taken to a page which displays the links associated with the uploaded images. Only copy the links from the "Links Only" box for use on the LRG forum. There is a useful "Copy" button which when clicked will copy all of the links in the box for you.

    7 - Once you have copied the links paste them into the post on LRG which you want to include the images in.

    8 - Finally, if you post multiple links in the same post on LRG please remember to number each of your links. This enables fellow members to easily comment on the specific link.

    Please also note that there is a 10mb size restriction to the images you upload to this account - but please also remember that the hot linking of any images from this or any other photo storage website or personal web space is not allowed. For those who do not understand the term hot linking, this means enabling an image from an external source to be physically viewed in an LRG thread without clicking an image link first. Please also remember that this is also the same for images from all other websites. In all instances, a plain URL link to the image is all that is permitted on the LRG Forum...

    Please do not abuse this feature. If I find any member uploading any material not relevant to LRG or malicious content they will be banned from the forum and in the case of illegal content I will fully cooperate with imgbox to ensure that your details are passed on to the relevant authorities.
     
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